gav: > i didn't say what you quoted me as saying. > for the record. Nick: Oh Lord. I didn't quote anybody in this post. What are you talking about?
Nick > > --- On Tue, 9/6/09, blue-jay maple <[email protected]> wrote: > > > From: blue-jay maple <[email protected]> > > Subject: [MD] my olive branch effort > > To: [email protected] > > Received: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 11:40 AM > > Everybody, > > > > I would like to say that I am feeling more safe with some > > of you. Ron, you helped me feel safe with your very civil discourse and > > understanding. > > We, meaning anybody, can differ on approaches. We can > > disagreed on government. So be it, but I think it is best to be > > honest on how events are. Sure some people may tolerate the > > government and may find > > safety in how it works. At least I feel a sense of honor with > > that person who can come out and admit their adherence, but don't > > try to defend > > injustice. I know that is difficult and it may seem more my personal > > opinion > > for those that tolerate the government. But I have taken liberty to > > the radical extreme in deduction. At least you know that I am for peace and > > I would never IPC (initiate physical coercion), so, at least people can > > surmise that from what I've discussed. I know I believe in > > liberty very strongly > > and have reasoned it through to a considered radicalness to some > > (though I am no more > > radical than all those now and before that took liberty to such extremes). > > I > > can't say I am any better or worse for what I pursue, but I think > > you can at least perceive > > that my effort is born of peace (NAP) and that is my effort in life. I > > don't > > think that is bad, I think that is a good event to strive for - > > to minimize conflict. So I > > offer the olive branch and I know I have shaken the foundation of > > what some people > > believe. I am trying and my effort is born of care and fear. > > Yes fear because of > > what I perceive and what that means in conclusion, and I have > > feared what some people have said > > in this forum. It has frightened me tremendously. I am fragile. I > > just want peace. I am glad I found some people who have tried to > > reach out and understand my > > peaceful intentions instead of some others who I see as very > > dangerous in their irrational > > dismissal (Krimel and dmb). Arlo: I highly respect your pursuance. I love > > how you really feel strongly about something you believe in. You > > are a very principled person and > > I can see you don't compromise in what you believe in. I greatly > > admire that. And > > I thank you. > > > > M K: I am happy you stepped forward to greet me. > > > > Platt: I know in your heart you truly want freedom > > and you fear in great length because you care greatly. Your > > heart is full of love. I > > thank you from the bottom of my heart! > > > > Marsha: You are a strong woman with unbounding > > care. You have really been very beautiful in your approach. I thank you. > > > > Ron: You are very brave and open-minded. You > > dived into what many shuttered and scattered from out of fear and > > extreme caution. I charged in > > here like a raging buffalo and you met me with a tender heart > > that helped ease my fear. If you > > see it from my perspective as I think you, Ron, have been able > > to. I think you might see my fear > > and why I have said bluntly that I think other people are > > dangerous. I think it is mainly a > > huge shift for people and I did come in here very strongly in > > what I feel deeply about - peace. Ron in my running fear and thus > > my preconceptual distrust right off the bat due to how I saw > > people not > > understanding me and dismissing the NAP. And since the NAP means > > peace, then can anybody really > > question my fear and possible confusion on why would people > > reject peace? I am a wild horse > > at times Ron, but you are a good hearted person and I can see > > trust in your heart through your > > posts. It helped me settle down amidst the barrage of posts > > bashing me without trying to have > > discourse on what I meant. When I say somebody is a criminal I > > am merely pointing out an example on the > > intellectual exercise of what they are concluding. It does not > > mean they want to be a criminal or > > murderer. I am intellectual showing the boundaries of an > > innocent person who is trying to minimize conflict > > and somebody that may not recognize the boundaries of their > > actions. Ron thank you for being > > civil. > > > > Andre: Your intentions are present, but you seem to > > not take the time to figure out what somebody else means. This > > is all an intellectual exercise and > > I am pointing out the boundaries in human action. For me to say > > you are an idiot, murderer, and criminal is a > > cynic move out of distrust cause I didn't see you try to care > > expect in a few instances. I'm sorry, > > please don't think that I'm saying anything outside of an > > intellectual exercise. I am merely pointing out > > boundaries. > > > > gav: I'm am greatly appreciative of you. I > > think you were one of the first to make an attempt to try to > > reason with me. You asked questions and saw the > > questions and answers as an intellectual discourse. The topics > > of justice, crime, and liberty in any law > > classroom are difficult for people to handle > > sometimes. It might shake them up to look into the eyes of what > > somebody may never have peered into before. But you are well > > prepared and reasonable. I honor your > > effort to help bridge the intellectual discourse. I Thank You. > > > > Ian: I think you have a difficult time knowing what > > an intellectual exercise is and what is try about > > life. You seem beaten like a dog and tired. I wish I could be > > there in person cause it wouldn't be so bad to talk about these > > things if we saw each others faces. I really > > wasn't trying to condemn you. I wasn't doing the run > > around. I think a tremendous amount of talking past each other > > happened. I feel sad that the conversation became challenging. > > It is not everyday that misery is upon > > our ears. I'm sorry. > > > > John: I don't know you much but you seem like a fun > > person. I am so happy you tried to reason with me > > too. You seem like a cool guy to hang out with. > > > > I really hope I didn't miss anybody else from the > > discussion. dmb and Krimel are still assholes for what > > they said. They are gloriously arrogant. They are basket cases > > of mistrust in my opinion. I feel empathy for them, > > but I am also very fearful and do not trust them at all. Their > > lack of care to reason makes me wonder how far they would go if > > we were actually close by each other physically. > > > > So thank you for those that have tried to help me feel > > comfortable and have taken the time to have a civil > > discourse. peace > > > > Nick -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! > > Choose From 200+ Email Addresses > > Get a Free Account at www.mail.com > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. 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