> > Nick: > > Ian, are you saying here you prefer me to be Ad Hominem? Ok, so my sincere > > personal opinion is a "no win game". Ian, you're one opposite person.
Ian: > No I am saying exactly the opposite. It is the only rule worth > "enforcing" - even by self discipline - in my opinion (and > incidentally its the ony rule ever enforced by Horse). Nick: Oh, on the internet the only rule "worth enforcing". Ian I would like to chat with you before we get into anything too much. :-) I have a difficult time understanding you sometimes. I'm sorry it's my fault. Ian: > The aggression you expressed to me presonally (and subsequent olive > branch) is water of a duck's back ... I can move on. I was pointing > out it was a no-win game (for you) in the sense that even when you do > apparently sincerely express inter-personal views (even positive > ones), others (gav, MK so far) object. Nick: gav didn't object, he misunderstood. M K, needs love and feels left out. I can't help that. What about my feelings Ian? I've had to buck it up to people not even trying for the most part. People not understanding the way I do an intellectual exercise, and people not trying for the most part to understand how I'm approaching this. Ron did an excellent job in going through the intellectual exercise with me, but Ron has always had a big heart when it comes to dealing with other people. I'm not trying to downplay the approach of others (except I noted in this olive branch post), but I come into this forum and right away for my position I get attacked without a soft, sincere effort to understand what I'm saying. I called people criminals and murderers, but that was boundary setting of the intellectual discourse. It is pointing out where the lines are in our actions. As I've said we need not get into that anymore. I came into this forum with a clear perspective of law, and I got responses that were very dangerous in my perspective. But who cares what I experienced... I'll move on. Ian: > My objection to the ad hominem - to anyone - is the distracting > irrelevant unproductive "noise" it generates. As I must have said a > hundred times - life's too short. Nick: I can respect that. I really can't argue against that. We can turn this into a philosophical discussion: Did you ever hear of the Zen monks hitting their students with a stick while they zazen? Have you ever heard of the cynics from ancient greece? Nick -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
