M K:
> Arlo, a 900 pound grizzly bear does not carry around it's propert 
> rights / natural rights in the form of a deed or title or some 
> other intellectual construct. It carries it around in the form of 
> muscle and bone. If you should happen upon such a beast while 
> hiking in the wilds, you will immediatly honor it's rights by 
> backing the hell out of there. Happened to me. I know. For example:

Nick:
Good call M K.  That's why natural rights are for humans cause humans 
can petition.  Natural rights are thus reasoned assertions so we don't have 
to interact with each other using muscle and bone all the time.  We can reason 
natural rights and communicate them to each other thereby minimizing conflict.  
We are rational animals that have the foresight to reason what can lead to a 
civil society.  And since Arlo doesn't understand stealing is immoral and he 
advocates 
it then I need to get grizzly on him for self-defense reasons if he comes near 
me.

Thanks M K

Nick


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