John previously: > > . so you could come > > > up with a bunch of different hypothetical situations that would coerce > > me, > > > but none of them would fit either and after a while we'd realize that you > > > are just playing games with your own fantasyland terrors that have > > nothing > > > to do with me so WHY SHOULD I BE INTERESTED??? > > > More clear I hope? > > > > Nick previously: > > I call that excellent. I think you, John, are somebody that knows what > > liberty is and you value life tremendously!!! > > Might I ask, are you about peace, meaning, as long as nobody 'tries' to > > initiate physical coercion > > against you are you for the finer things in life that are good?
John: > John the tardy replier: > Who isn't? Nick: So far Arlo. He keeps saying peace is wrong. Seriously look at his posts. John: > Well I suppose I should be gratified at your enthusiasm Nick. But you are > still not making much sense. My question to you was, explicitly and > fundamentally, WHY SHOULD I BE INTERESTED??? Nick: You don't HAVE to be interested if that's what you're asking. I'm merely shooting the breeze about quality. John: > That is, why should I be interested in your NAP? It doesn't meet any need > of mine, it seems like a course on breathing to a guy who has been alive a > long time. I don't coerce and feel impervious to same and thus it seems to > me, a simple recitation of your problems in a forum that last time I > checked, was not set up to solve Nick's problems. Nick: Well coming into this forum with the NAP gave me an opportunity to see who is willing to reason and who is willing to simply be unreasonable. I wanted to see who I could trust and who is violent. And once I do I think I sit back in this forum and know who are about beauty and philosophy and who are really about vice efforts that don't help people when most people are trying to be social and enjoy life. That might be about as simple as my effort has been. Thanks. John: > Nick, please use a minute of objective logic. I like seclusion. I prefer > to be independent of Government control so I make choices that free me from > that control. It's pretty simple. And when I point this out to you, you > claim it is the govt MAKING me do what I myself feel is my own choice. Can > you see that you are talking about YOUR mind and your choices and you are > implicating me with your thoughts? My judgement tells me you are suffering > from the common narcissism of the times and cannot truly relate to others. Nick: That's fine John you choose to go there where you can get away with it. Which is my point. You have to go there to "get away with it" and hide from the government. I don't find that to be a vice. I think it is very courageous and admirable. And I'm talking about what is happening right here in the wide open. We are in different locations. John: > Aha. The self-deluding circle is closed and complete. Either I am a victim > or a perpetrator in your cosmology and since I have demonstrated I am not a > victim, I must be a perp. Ok. Fine. I'm a thief. Nick: Ok. Glad to meet you thief. Without the government coming at the point of gun at me or else... you wouldn't be getting that stolen money. Nick Nick -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
