Arlo is in the "MIght Makes Right" law of the jungle world. I REASON and contemplate natural law of human nature and I am for liberty. Arlo is for criminality. Sad.
Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arlo Bensinger" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [MD] Coerce me? How? > Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2009 16:37:39 -0400 > > > [Ron] > generally speaking yes, but it's the particular ideas that are not > self evident. All people have ideas, but not every idea is held by > all people. > > [Arlo] > Exactly. And it is the enactment of civil governance that gives one > set of ideas legitimacy over another. Indeed, we enact government > to say "we believe this idea is best" and to provide the authority > to back up its instantiation. "Private property" is one such idea, > that is not "self-evident", but comes from the social and > historical underpinnings to modern man's reasoning. And we enacted > a government that legitimizes "property rights" and provides an > authority to back them up. > > Without this, you'd just have two guys standing on a hill. > > "This hill is mine." > "No, this hill doesn't 'belong' to any one, it is free land for all > people to enjoy." > > Who is "right"? Whoever can convince more people. Whoever has the > authority of civil governance on their side to legitimize their > claim. > > "Self-evident" is a buzzword, and it usually means, "it's the way I > personally think" with an appeal to a "higher power" to justify > that your beliefs are right and everyone else's are wrong. > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
