On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:59 AM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote:
Anyway, the undifferentiated aesthetic continuum, DQ, the primary empirical > reality, or whatever terms suits your fancy, is not about energy blobs or > chaotic spews. It's direct experience, pure experience. In that sense, it > refers to something you already know. Artists are usually especially attuned > to this cutting edge of experience. Otherwise, you're just painting by > numbers. You know? > Thanks for the time and explanations David. I'd like to respond to one or two points. First "direct experience" seems to put me into subject-object orientation every time. Experience "of" and experience "by" are the mental constructs that pop into my brain when the word experience pops up in my experience. "Pre-conceptualized" is a term I'd prefer to "direct", but you point out many different ways of describing the same thing and I get your meaning here and DQ is quite a fine way to label it and much easier than typing out "undifferentiated aesthetic continuum". But essentially, with apologies to Ham, there is a large piece of the metaphysical pie missing here (at least to my mind) and that is how to get from DQ to sq. I've even heard DQ described as chaos - as in chaotic change is "better" than static good and that just doesn't make sense. There seems to my reasoning to be a logical need for "good" patterning in order for any meaning at all to arise - for the inorganic elements of a chemistry professor to organize themselves or for the arising analogies of intellect to match closely the Reality they are describing. Good as a structural pattern of Reality which imposes itself upon the mind of the discerner so that the empirical deductions which arise in experience can be judged and chosen. Pronouncing it as a mystical occurrence is a cop out when so much intellect has been expended,explaining so much mystery already. John the mystical impaired -- ------------ Self is simply Choice, so choose good ------------ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
