John,
You bring up an interesting point, are we in fact promoting legislating the 
words
or the act of threates and intimidation which may include words.



What do you do with people locked in thought traps, burning in hatred and 
fear?  I still
catch myself obsessing about things.

I'll invent scenerios in my mind  getting me emotionally charged which sets the 
tone for how I approach expereince.

People have the power to infuence expereince and most are not aware of it. An 
ability
undisciplined, unrecognized and misunderstood in our culture.








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From: John Carl <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:03:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MD] Free speech

Interesting right now with a holocaust denier so much in the news...
What it has led me to wonder is the proper role of ostracism.  If we deny
the hater his speech, isn't that just more likely to force him into action?
Since this thread began with Nick, it's relevant to wonder if we don't
scapegoat others as a way of making ourselves look better, building group
unity in the name of ostracising whereas the higher quality way would be to
refine our intellectual tools of persuasion in the hopes that the lost might
be saved.

John the saintly sounding



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> Ron,
>  So I would not shout
> down and otherwise prevent a Holocaust denier from speaking on
> campus,
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