Marsha, I use it for stratagizing and planning, designing it can be very useful in aligning intent also. Useful. When it becomes a hinderance I let it fall into the backround and focus on the now. I try to have it serve me instead of me serving it. The problem is recognizing when it is a help or a hinderance.
-Ron ________________________________ From: MarshaV <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:47:22 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Free speech Hi Ron, And isn't this the problem of many types patterns. So running on automatic are these patterns that a fresh evaluation of an experience/event is never considered. What was liberating for me was to understand the nature of all patterns, and letting them take second place importance whenever possible. When caught in a difficult pattern-loop, it becomes easier to label it 'conceptually constructed pattern', drop it, and move on for a more direct experience. I find the sweeping dismissal works far better than trying to combat every instance. Marsha At 08:07 AM 6/12/2009, you wrote: >John, >You bring up an interesting point, are we in fact promoting >legislating the words >or the act of threates and intimidation which may include words. > > > >What do you do with people locked in thought traps, burning in >hatred and fear? I still >catch myself obsessing about things. > >I'll invent scenerios in my mind getting me emotionally charged >which sets the tone for how I approach expereince. > >People have the power to infuence expereince and most are not aware >of it. An ability >undisciplined, unrecognized and misunderstood in our culture. > > > > > > > > >________________________________ >From: John Carl <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 5:03:00 PM >Subject: Re: [MD] Free speech > >Interesting right now with a holocaust denier so much in the news... >What it has led me to wonder is the proper role of ostracism. If we deny >the hater his speech, isn't that just more likely to force him into action? >Since this thread began with Nick, it's relevant to wonder if we don't >scapegoat others as a way of making ourselves look better, building group >unity in the name of ostracising whereas the higher quality way would be to >refine our intellectual tools of persuasion in the hopes that the lost might >be saved. > >John the saintly sounding > > > >On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:54 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron, > > So I would not shout > > down and otherwise prevent a Holocaust denier from speaking on > > campus, > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > >-- >------------ >Self is simply Choice, so choose good >------------ >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > >Moq_Discuss mailing list >Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >Archives: >http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _____________ "He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has." (Friedrich von Schiller) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
