Good plan, Prof. I will keep you updated on results. I still think the "fallen nature" thing is gonna trip him up. After all, the Lord pronounced the creation GOOD.
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:09 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]>wrote: > > John: > Okay, but maybe the wringlin' will be better if you realize that an > over-reaction is likely to mean that you're dealing with deeply held beliefs > and then you can respond accordingly, meaning cautiously. And it might be > helpful to see that kind of religiosity as a different way to reject > scientific materialism. As I see it, fundamentalism is a cure worse than the > disease but at least you would have a common enemy. That's always a good > place to start, a place where you might agree even if you have different > responses to that common problem. On the other hand, I would not try to > convert an Adventist. I'd probably just ask a lot of questions and then just > wait until he gets tangled up in his answers. It's almost inevitable. > My two cents,dmb > > > > Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:26:22 -0700 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MD] Wranglin' with Rigel > > > > I know exactly what you mean, David, and I can see how my words would > make > > you think "D" is one of those guys. But that's not really the way it is. > > > > Especially the crack he made about jr. college. You could easily > construe > > that as a sort of intellectual bullying. And while it might have had a > > slight edge there, it was really about a deeper schism concern on his > part. > > His education was mainly in Seventh Day Adventist institutions and there > is > > a certain mindset from those schools that gets passed on. Well, duh, > that's > > what educational institutions do. Especially religious ones. > > > > His comment about my Sierra College education had more to do with my > > exposure to that worldly confusion of pagan ideas outside the safe > confines > > of Adventism, and thus his concern for my soul. See, it's still a little > > bit condescending, to be considered a soul in need of saving, but then > I'm > > looking at him in basically the same way, a poor lost soul wandering in > SOM. > > So who am I to point fingers? > > > > But I look at the dialogue as an intriguing opportunity to try and > convert, > > knowing it for the darned exercise in futile degeneracy that it is. We > all > > need hobbies. What else goes on here most of the time but the effort to > > convert? > > > > John > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------ > > Doing Good IS Being > > ------------ > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. > > http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > -- ------------ Doing Good IS Being ------------ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
