> > >Krimel: > > >As for the crack on flattery I can only say I have to flatter my self > > > since don't have a peanut gallery to outsource that to. > > > >Marsha > >Though I sometimes disagree with you, I enjoy your posts. They are > >intelligent and interesting. And as long as I can occasionally shoot > >some seltzer in your direction, I want a front row seat in your > >peanut gallery. Give me K-R-I-M-E-L. Yea Krimel!!! > > > >[Krimel] > >OMG, with even just a mental flash of you in a short skirt with pom-poms, I > >can die a happy man. > > > >A special shout out to Dave, without whose assistance, this moment of bliss > >would not have been possible. > > > >More seltzer, please! I think I am going to spontaneously combust. > > > >Nudge, nudge, wink, wink... > >Marsha: >Leave Dave out of this. > >Back to my question: I do not understand what you mean by spiritual >state of consciousness, please define? Can you define or explain >what you are criticizing? > >[Krimel] >A woman who cheers and does not sleep... I am now a happy man in fear of >death. > >States of consciousness are some times thought of as levels of awareness. >The only common thread I find in any of the several hazy definitions of >consciousness is the notion of awareness. So we can think of sleep, >intoxication, meditation, hypnosis, depression, catatonia, arousal etc as >states of awareness. Spiritual states of consciousness I would say aim at >awareness of some kind of experience beyond the self.
Marsha: Maybe it is simply awareness sans concepts. Would you have a complaint if it were simply awareness sans patterns? Simply seeing. [Krimel] Yeah sort of but I have ongoing doubts about whether this is even possible much less desirable. Even awareness involves some kind of framework or appreciation of context. I am suspicious of the concept of awareness without concepts. Isn't even that a concept? [Marsha] You are Krimel, I am Night. [Krimel] And Krimel is up past his bedtime, good Night _____________ "He who neglects the present moment throws away all he has." (Friedrich von Schiller) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.12.94/2208 - Release Date: 06/29/09 05:54:00 Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
