At 03:17 AM 6/30/2009, you wrote:
> > >Krimel:
> > >As for the crack on flattery I can only say I have to flatter my self
> > > since don't have a peanut gallery to outsource that to.
> >
> >Marsha
> >Though I sometimes disagree with you, I enjoy your posts. They are
> >intelligent and interesting. And as long as I can occasionally shoot
> >some seltzer in your direction, I want a front row seat in your
> >peanut gallery. Give me K-R-I-M-E-L. Yea Krimel!!!
> >
> >[Krimel]
> >OMG, with even just a mental flash of you in a short skirt with pom-poms,
I
> >can die a happy man.
> >
> >A special shout out to Dave, without whose assistance, this moment of
bliss
> >would not have been possible.
> >
> >More seltzer, please! I think I am going to spontaneously combust.
> >
> >Nudge, nudge, wink, wink...
>
>Marsha:
>Leave Dave out of this.
>
>Back to my question: I do not understand what you mean by spiritual
>state of consciousness, please define? Can you define or explain
>what you are criticizing?
>
>[Krimel]
>A woman who cheers and does not sleep... I am now a happy man in fear of
>death.
>
>States of consciousness are some times thought of as levels of awareness.
>The only common thread I find in any of the several hazy definitions of
>consciousness is the notion of awareness. So we can think of sleep,
>intoxication, meditation, hypnosis, depression, catatonia, arousal etc as
>states of awareness. Spiritual states of consciousness I would say aim at
>awareness of some kind of experience beyond the self.
Marsha:
Maybe it is simply awareness sans concepts. Would you have a
complaint if it were simply awareness sans patterns? Simply seeing.
[Krimel]
Yeah sort of but I have ongoing doubts about whether this is even possible
much less desirable. Even awareness involves some kind of framework or
appreciation of context. I am suspicious of the concept of awareness without
concepts. Isn't even that a concept?
Marsha:
Oh it's possible, but concepts used to describe it are, yes, concepts.
[Marsha]
You are Krimel, I am Night.
[Krimel]
And Krimel is up past his bedtime, good Night
Marsha:
Sorry for interrupting you. I'm going to get back to my painting.
Sleep tight.
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