Hi Craig
11 July you wrote:
> From the historical point of view: Carbon (billions of years ago) Idea
> of the helicopter (16 th century) Idea of carbon (19 th century)
> Helicopter (20 th century) Let´s say the historical point of view
> itself is an idea, so it´s somewhere in the above sequence. But this
> gives us no reason to reverse the priority of carbon & the idea of
> carbon.
You beat me with this comment to Ron's and you go to the core of the
idea nonsense (as well as the language ditto in the form of the
Quality/Concept thesis) Ideas (or thoughts) as what goes on in minds
is SOM, and if MOQ's 4th. level is made equal to SOM's mind it
inherits all SOM's plartypuses.
You may be too nice to join me in my criticism of (what I call latter-
day) Pirsig as the one who started this undermining of MOQ's
purpose which is to do away with SOM's ideas/matter mess. This is
done by making the aforementioned mess into its own intellectual
level (see ZAMM) The S/O distinction is the highest value, but its
static quality explains why it produces platypuses if treated as
absolute.
Bodvar
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> [Xacto]
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> > the idea of anything coming before experience
> > is, in fact, an idea.
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> Let´s say the historical point of view itself is an idea, so it´s
> somewhere in the above sequence. But this gives us no reason to
> reverse the priority of carbon & the idea of carbon.
>
>
> [Xacto]
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> > the idea of anything coming before experience
> > is, in fact, an idea.
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> So the idea of experience comes before experience?
>
> Craig
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