Hi David M.B. 23 Aug. 2009 . Writing about Scott Roberts put me in a sentimental mood. People have come and gone, some have stayed for many years, if I had had the energy I would have looked into the archives to check how long Scott stayed but I can't forget him. Come to think of it I can't forget "riskybiz" either, or Maggie Hettinger or Wavedave or Donald Palmgren or Diana or Magnus or Denis (Poisson) or, or ... people I no longer remember the names of but still sense the "impact" of. Luckily we still have you Dave (and Platt [along with me the Nestor] and Matt and off-&-on Anthony McWatt) around. Besides some of the present participant are working up a formidable "tenure". We allegedly just discuss the MOQ but there's a sense of being pioneers of something huge, like the early Greek thinkers who sensed the enormity of (what we know is) the intellectual level ....
.... but - sigh - this is the very "bone of contention".. Bodvar said: > As long as the MOQ is seen as an intellectual pattern (instead of > intellect a MOQ level) SOM is alive. Intellect remains a mental, > mindish realm where ideas reside, SOM one idea, the MOQ another > idea, allegedly a good idea, but nevertheless a subjective CONCEPT > different from the objective world "out there" ... and SOM > prevails. DMB says that Pirsig says: > He noted that although normally you associate Quality with objects, > feelings of Quality sometimes occur without any object at all. This > is what led him at first to think that maybe Quality is all > subjective. But subjective pleasure wasn't what he meant by Quality > either. Quality decreases subjectivity. Quality takes you out of > yourself, makes you aware of the world around you. Quality is > opposed to subjectivity ... ... snip. I wish you would extract the meaning of this and tell how it contradicts my passage above. Much obliged Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
