For Ron (who has found that being "unruly" is the only way to get attention)
30 Sep.: Ron to Andre: > I think E=Mc2 pretty much proved that objective reality is an > illusion, Andre: > Ron, I just want to check something with you: when you use the word > 'illusion' do you mean to say that our knowledge of the world/universe > is still incomplete or that it doesn't exist i.e a figment of our > imagination without value? Ron: > Great question, when I use the term illusion, I mean a distortion not > a hallucenation. I mean to say that Philosphic idealism is mostly > concerned with the idea that all we may ever grasp of experience is a > distortion of it. A simplification an exaggeration. Simply put, > objects are an idea projected onto experience, an assumption, one we > were taught most of our lives. I cannot see that "philosophic idealism" says anything else than "normal idealism", namely that (in Andre's words) "our world/universe is a figment of our imagination" and is SOM's subjective part. Why are you laboring inside SOM's premises believing that the MOQ is some subjectivist or spiritual movement? Which it isn't! "Objects are an idea" ... what utter nonsense. In a MOQ context subjects and objects - better the S/O distinction - is the intellectual levels repertoire; An immense value but due to its static nature it will lead to paradoxes if treated as existence's fundament. Write that hundred times on your blackboard!!!! Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
