> Marsha:  
> John,
>
> I'd like some examples of non-subject/object intellectual patterns.
>

John:
Marsha, if I was standing behind you in a zenlike crouch, I'd probably whack
you with a stick and say, "there! (not there)."

But I'm not, so I can't.  Sorry.

Marsha:
A good whacking on the head proves what about intellectual patterns?
Because I cannot imagine how you define that whack as a intellectual
pattern. Very dynamic, but not very intellectual.  Although it might be an
intelligent way of emptying my teacup of tea and filling it with stars.   

John:
>From what I understand out of these discusssions, intellect is synonomous
with objectifying.   I used to define intellect more comprehensively, what
you might say is mind, but I see that mind is much more comprehensive than
intellect and thus a useful distinction should be made.

Marsha:
It can get confusing.  I consider intellect and intellectual having to do
with the type of patterns in the fourth level.  Intelligence and intelligent
I consider the activity of applying the best patterns from all four levels.
It's simple (I think) and makes a clear distinction, and works for me.  For
example, an uneducated person can show a huge amount of intelligence, while
an intellectual can prove to be not very intelligent.   

  

  


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