> "Since experience is the starting point, it doesn't arise from a > lower level of no experience." (Pirsig) > > [Platt] > If experience is the starting point, time is presumed > > [Arlo] > No. "Time" is a perceptual pattern derived from the experience of > sufficiently complex patterns of life. Atoms do not experience "time".
Pirsig's statement, "experience is the starting point" is a perceptual pattern whose meaning requires the assumption of time. How do you know atoms don't experience time? "We can just as easily deduce the morality of atoms from the observation that chemistry professors are, in general, moral. If chemistry professors exercise choice, and chemistry professors are composed exclusively of atoms, then it follows that atoms must exercise choice too. The difference between these two points of view is philosophic, not scientific." (Lila, 12) Substitute ""experience time" for "exercise choice" in the above. Conclusion: Atoms must experience time, too." . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
