Bodvar: Platt, Andre, All 20 Nov:
Platt: > To be precise, all concepts such as "time" and explanatory dimensions" > are intellectual PoV. Which brings to mind Bo's idea that the MOQ is > transconceptual and therefore timeless, which fits with Quality being > outside definition. Maybe we're getting somewhere after all. Many of the issues raised has been discussed before (and consensus arrived at?) and resides somewhere in the archives. Andre: You are correct Bodvar, in stating that the intellectual level and your SOL have been raised over and over again, over a period of more than 10 years now...though to state/ask about consensus being arrived at I am not so sure. I have been diving in the archives over the past few weeks and there isn't any agreement that I could find. More learned fellows and women than me have stated their views and who am I to add anything new to either challenge or confirm? Perhaps it is better to leave the question regarding the 'mysteries' of the intellectual level hanging (so to speak) as a continued tension between DQ/SQ. Perhaps this is a cop-out on my part but I do not intend it that way. As said before, Mr.Pirsig has let his views be known. I wish to remain neutral in this matter. It does tend to take up a lot of energy better spent on other things. Questions remain and answers fly right over my head sometimes. E.g why can the MoQ not be an intellectual PoV, as Pirsig maintains it is? Is intuition an intellectual PoV? How is Quality excluded from the MoQ if the MoQ is an intellectual PoV? Anyway, I do not know where this will end up but am sure where I will end up. And it is not in the percolator. Perhaps another level is required. Pirsig has stated not to have objections to this but he still feels that the four 'levels' are sufficient plus the Code. I highly respect this stance. Regards Andre Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
