[Arlo previously] Without an agent attuned the value of "bigger-ness", such a distinction would not exist. If you say it does, then answer "where?"
[Craig] It does. It's not just surfers who experience waves of different sizes. All the fish in the sea do (& all the driftwood too). [Arlo] Surfers = agents attuned to the value of "biggerness". Fish, too, I suppose, but to a very limited degree (if "bigger" waves held some value for them, they would be aware of the distinction). Driftwood? Unlikely. What value distinction would "driftwood" experience between wave sizes? [Craig] Why consider the order an illusion? If it's what we experience, (except in exceptional cases) it's reality. [Arlo] Sounds like the S/O position, does it not? I think the MOQ sees patterns more as "Gestalt illusions", high Quality ones, to be sure. The "greater" the preferred response to Quality, the more "fixed" and "real" we hold that pattern to be. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
