On Dec 16, 2009, at 1:45:58 PM, [email protected] wrote: In many places Pirsig uses the term knowledge as synonymous with intellect, but "ability to know" makes me a little uneasy. Stone Age (social level) humans knew to perfection what was necessary for their existence, but this (both dextrous skill and the "how to") knowledge I relegate to intelligence. By knowledge in connection with intellect we mean something grander, the objective, scientific truth as contrasted to the subjective "I just wish - or want - this to be true". Don't start about science's limitations, all this is part of the MOQ's scope .
Hi Skutvik, Interesting that you would think the current knowledge as objective. It is quite clear to me that it is all subjective. That you would claim it to be objective belies the depth of hypnosis you are in. If it is objective, then why doesn't a tree know it? Science is a creation of the human brain, nothing more. There is no objectivity in language, in communication, all of it is subjective agreement, no different from a barking dog. Yes it has meaning to us, but that is about it. A barking dog has meaning to a dog. It is time you break this cage you are in. The human appreciation of existence is Quality itself, nothing more. I can see that you wish to be at the top of the heap. But it doesn't take much to see through all of that. You seem to be cast in a spell. All of it may have meaning to you, in the name of Pirsig, but there is so much more. You are just scratching the surface. There are many trails, MoQ is one of them. I know you believe Quality to be some large encompassing absolute truth, but it is a bubble of truth amongst many other bubbles. It is sustained by convention within, but not from without. Try as I may, I can see that this bubble will be hard to break, but fear not, there is nothing to fear. Open your mind. All the best in your journey, Mark Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
