Hi Bruce: Bruce: > Perhaps I am too new to this to jump in here, but I see a need to define what > I call "Struggles" between the levels and "Struggles" within the level. The > advantage of defining these "Struggles" is to provide the ability to view any > problem from a perspective and advantage of the MoQ that has perhaps never > been achieved. It is how these levels interact within between each other and > within. > Struggles: > Inorganic Static Patterns Reducing to Subatomic Particles > Inorganic Static Patterns against other Inorganic Static Patterns > Between Biological and Inorganic > Between Biological and Biological > Between Social and Biological > Between Social and Inorganic > Between Social and Social > Between Intellectual and Social > Between Intellectual and Biological > Between Intellectual and Inorganic > Between Intellectual and Intellectual
Pirsig used the word "struggles" as well in describing these interactions between levels: "First, there were moral codes that established the supremacy of biological life over inanimate nature. Second, there were moral codes that established the supremacy of the social order over biological life-conventional morals-proscriptions against drugs, murder, adultery, theft and the like. Third, there were moral codes that established the supremacy of the intellectual order over the social order-democracy, trial by jury, freedom of speech, freedom of the press. Finally there's a fourth Dynamic morality which isn't a code. He supposed you could call it a "code of Art" or something like that, but art is usually thought of as a such a frill that that title undercuts its importance. The morality of the brujo in Zuñi-that was Dynamic morality.What was emerging was that the static patterns that hold one level of organization together are often the same patterns that another level of organization must fight to maintain its own existence. Morality is not a simple set of rules. It's a very complex struggle of conflicting patterns of values. This conflict is the residue of evolution. As new patterns evolve they come into conflict with old ones. Each stage of evolution creates in its wake a wash of problems. It's out of this struggle between conflicting static patterns that the concepts of good and evil arise." I don't think he talks much about struggles within levels. Best, Steve Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
