Hi to you Steve 15 Jan. thou spaketh:
Bo before > > Sorry, I thought, now that the SOL starts to dawn, that I could > > relax a little, not being forced to "...resolve whole > > metaphysical disputes at the end of each sentence". SOM as MOQ's > > intellectual level means its "M" rank being handed over to the > > MOQ, only its VALUE of the S/O distinction - in a static sense - > > remaining. Steve: > So at some point in time, the subject-object metaphysics stopped > being a metaphysical system and became a type of pattern of value??? That's right. Once the Quality context was revealed the whole existence crystallized along its seed. There are several instances of such re-crystallizations. When SOM arrived - and by and by its science - the old religious reality that once dominated, changed into a mere scientific study and faith itself into something subjective.I.e. a SOM subset. > Was SOM not always a pattern of value? No, while SOM, its Q-intellect role was still to come, the S/O schism was reality. (ref. the Newton example) Existence was dualistic, two realms on each side of a bottomless abyss. This caused paradoxes galore, but like me everyone thought existence to be paradoxical. NB! Afterwards from within the MOQ reality it looks as if everything has been value from eternity, That's the privilege of the ruling metaphysics. > Is the MOQ not a static pattern of value? Of course not, it's neither static nor dynamic, it's the DQ/SQ reality itself!. > If not, what is it? It's a metaphysics in the true "... no one living in an ordered universe can avoid ...etc." sense, before Pirsig shifted to the Aristotelian (SOM) "theory about reality" kind. > The MOQ says that all of reality is contained within the four static > levels and DQ. Is the MOQ part of reality? Again. It IS the Quality Reality that now has incorporated SOM. No other approach is possible without being sucked back into SOM. In a sense the static range can be viewed as ever new realities incorporating the former. I know that when it comes to the MOQ it kind of makes it sound "static", but at these heights it's not easy to get everything right, it's not every day a new reality is born, not since the Greeks by the way. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
