Hi Bo, I do agree with you on many things, but not on the nature of static patterns of value. I think to describe spov as analogy is perfect, and not necessarily to discredit them. Patterns (all) are conventional truths that form based on their value, but they do not independently exist. Spov provisionally exist.
I would like you to explain how you describe the nature of all patterns with as much detail as you give to the MoQ, SOL and SOM. Marsha On Jan 17, 2010, at 3:21 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Dear Nephew John > > I know you have addressed me several times in the later days, but > I have made it a policy to check the mailbox once a day - in the > morning here - as not to be overwhelmed, but thanks anyway. > > 16 Jan. > > Bo before: >>> However, the addition of new levels does not appeal to me, if we >>> open that gate where to stop? I agree very much that logic is the >>> universe's prerequisite and have suggested it as the inorganic >>> "carbon". Where this originates ..?? ... but at this - um - level >>> the buck stops for us all. > > John: >> It's all an analogy as you know, and Quality has always been, imo, an >> analogy for the universal logic you are reaching for. >> I thought you knew that? > > I'll open with my standard phrase: "You don't understand!" I know > that Pirsig has said so, but the idea is that ALL IS VALUE and if so > all is NOT analogies!. If anyone finds that there is something more > basic than value - say - analogy - then we have a "Metaphysics of > Analogies" (MOA): DA/SA, static inorganic analogies .... etc. > There has been a welter of suggestions of different "groundstuff" > up through the ages: In my copy of ZAMM my first note in the > margin was "isn't 'intuition the same as 'quality'"?' And as you > understand from my rantings I'm not amused by Pirsig's Quality as > the all-important thing with the MOQ as some afterthought ... why > he left it in shambles. The MOQ's is the Dynamic/Static split and > its enormous explanatory power emanates from the former SOM > being incorporated in it as its 4th. static level. Now stripped of its > "M", just the value of the S/O left. (to prevent Marsha coming after > me with a pallette knife ;-) > > Bodvar > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ _______________________________________________________________________ Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
