Hi Marsha,
You may find Ernst Cassirer's writings illuminating.
 http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/cassirer/
especially the part on the philosophy of symbolic
forms.  There are similarities with MoQ.  The reason
I bring this guys name up is that he considered the
intellect to be built on the foundations of the 
mythical consciousness.  This type of consciousness
would be at the root of our intellect.  So to deny myth,
is to deny that intellect exists (as least according 
to Cassirer).  I equate this to Windows when it was
based on DOS.  Many people were in denial that
it was built on the primitive DOS.  I think that Cassirer
makes a good argument, better than the argument
that man-made myths are not meaningful.  What 
makes something meaningful?

Now, if one takes the relativistic view, all constructs
are man-made.  So I take it you are saying that as an
athiest, things are not relative but that there is an
absolute truth out there.  This sounds kind of
religious.

What if God was not human-like, but a synthesis of
all intelligences besides those that are made up
of  a few interconnected neurons in our heads. Our
brain is quite simple and dwarfed by the complexity
of planet earth, which could be considered much more
intelligent than us.  Or is intelligence only the human
kind?

Cheers,
Mark

On Feb 6, 2010, at 9:00 PM, markhsmit wrote:

> Hi John,
> Interesting that you would use a theistic concept to dismiss theism.
> If atheist is the belief that there is no deity, it cannot exist
> without theism, thus approving of it. It is maybe like two sides
> of the same coin. What about the coin itself?


mark, john,

Here is the definition I like: Atheists are people who believe that god or gods
(or other supernatural beings) are man-made constructs, myths and legends 
or who believe that these concepts are not meaningful.

It has nothing to do with exist or not exist, but finding 'god' a pattern that 
is 
not meaningful.


Marsha






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