Hi John. I haven't given up on bringing some enlightenment to K-class :-) 9 Feb.: you said many things in: response to my too many things, so I have decided to concentrate on this single paragraph because to understand the MOQ requires an understanding the difference between the S/O distinction as a static value and as reality itself - as SOM!
John: > You seem to have a problem with reason. It seems like you don't > believe its reasonable for reason to realize its own limitations. ... But a MOQ adherer is supposed to have problems with reason, not reason in the "ability to think straight" sense, but in the "straight thinking reveals that existence's fundamental divide is the S/O" sense. Pirsig's original target was reason in the latter sense and by and by he found that this reason had arrived with the Greeks and then the ensuing arguments in ZAMM which ends with S/O-reason (aka SOM) becoming a subset of Quality. And from then on things were supposed to be cleared up, but so many go on thinking that there is an internal realm where concepts about the world reside, and that these two realms are existence's fundamental split. I don't say more, my arm-length posts are just a waste. Do you follow me this far? Bodvar . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
