nice one john - that is brilliant!!!!!!! --- On Mon, 22/2/10, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: John Carl <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [MD] Capitalism: my experience > To: [email protected] > Received: Monday, 22 February, 2010, 8:21 AM > I never got that quite till Pirsig, > the whole "love of money" thing. What? > > > But "love" is where we put our source of value. And > money is a social > pattern. Loving money is an immorality, subjecting an > intellectual value to > a social one. > > But its not just "a" immorality. It's "the" > immorality, for there is no > evil in nature, only the intellect of man is capable of > evil, when it > subjects intellect to social or biological satisfactions > alone. Or loves > money. > > I start a full time job monday, working for a new > organization, Soleil > Farms, we're gonna teach permaculture and Fukuoka Gardening > and sell > clay-seed balls to the local nursery. And they are only > about five minutes > from my house. > > Woo hoo! > > Minimum wage is a lot when I'd be glad to do it for free. > > John > > > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:36 AM, gav <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > correction: 'the *love of* money is the root of all > evil', that is the > > exact quote. > > mammon mia > > > > > > --- On Sun, 21/2/10, gav <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > From: gav <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [MD] Capitalism: my experience > > > To: [email protected] > > > Received: Sunday, 21 February, 2010, 7:03 PM > > > hiya, > > > just thought i'd share something i became aware > of recently > > > whilst working as a gardener. > > > > > > late last year i was travelling around the > country and had > > > stopped to see friends in a town called > castlemaine > > > north-west of melbourne, in country victoria. > whilst there i > > > picked up some gardening work through a friend > and did some > > > gardening at a couple of places, working with a > very > > > interesting bibliophile called john. > > > > > > anyway to cut to the story - i didn't enjoy > getting up and > > > going to work - i didn't want to do it. it wasn't > any > > > problem with the work or with john, or the > locations. i only > > > figured out what it was sometime afterwards. > > > > > > after working with john i spent the best part of > a week > > > doing a gardening job for my friends in > castlemaine - to say > > > thanks for letting me stay with them. i mowed, > snipped and > > > tidied their gardens; built two vegetable beds > and a 3-bay > > > composting system and eventually planted it all > up (i got a > > > text two days ago telling me my friends in > castlemaine were > > > eating lettuce, basil and tomatoes from out of > their > > > garden). this work was a joy to do - i enjoyed it > immensely > > > - it was creative and absorbing and stress free. > > > > > > what i realised through all this is that working > for money > > > is an essentially alienating exercise. working > for free, or > > > as exchange is quite different - it is ...noble. > it builds > > > trust, friendships, community.... > > > > > > money is the root of all evil? > > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > > Archives: > > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
