Bodvar to David T. Joe, Andre ...All As said before: The purely biological creatures - an animal in the wild f.ex. - cannot "have emotions", it would not dare out in the open to graze if feared death, or have offsprings if it mourned the previous litter that was eaten ... and so on, it's embarrassing to have to remind you about these obvious things.
Andre: Bodvar, my question remains (since I asked it yonks ago) How do you know that animals do not have emotions? And must say immediately that I agree when you say that the social level, through its use of language, interprets, assigns meaning to biological level phenomena.But it leaves the question still open. You bet an animal shows emotions (just ask Platt's Utou) But the explanation from the biological level to the social level may come as a real big surprise...if only it were possible. To argue that an animal would not dare to go out in the open if it feared death is a bit simplistic and plainly presumptuous. If they do not fear death why do they run when chased? Why would they stop fucking after their offspring has been eaten? Bloody hell! You cannot presume that the social (SOM) interpretation of the biological level is accurate or adequate. It is subject to organic patterns of value. Subject to the patterns of the 'law of the jungle'.... as far as we 'understand' them. Perhaps animals (to continue your example) live much more in the 'here and now' than we (at the social/intellectual level) do. A Law of the Jungle 'here and now'. These animals have been here a lot longer than the social or intellectual levels have. And whilst we are on it. Do human beings stop going out on the road, knowing that annually, lets say 1.000.000 people world wide die on these roads? Do human beings stop copulating after they have lost a child? You are making too many presumptions Bodvar and are very judgemental. Kind regards though. Andre, the compassionate fundamentalist Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
