On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Matt Kundert <[email protected] > wrote:
> > Gareth said: > In my opinion the text means what it says but what I want to learn is what > is in the mind of the other. > > Matt: > Okeey-doke. If you want to *ignore Socratic irony*, that's fine. Many > have. I'll try and find my mission statement for you, but I've never > co-written anything with Dave and Bo. And any time you want to talk, just > give me the heads up. > > Hi Matt, It is not so much that I want to ignore it, but just that for now my focus is elsewhere. Wittgenstein said: PI199; To understand a sentence means to understand a language.To understand a language means to be master of a technique. and he further defines that the purpose of language is to get others to do your will(meaning as use). This is what Pirsig taught, rhetoric. And he is master of cutting up ideas. My question is how can irony be used to get others to believe as you do(the purpose of your statement)? On a personal basis irony subverts friendship and acceptance. In this instance irony would have limited rhetorical use. In the marketplace of ideas irony directed to ideas would likely map those concepts which you oppose. Rhetoric (irony) in the political struggle for the supremacy of agenda negative advertising would be very useful. I would be pleased if you could post a few examples and I could test my hypothesis in discussion with you, sort of reading between the lines of Socrates' mission. Gareth. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
