John said:
"The important thing is that the unique value of language
lies in truth. Language is not bound to reality, but to its
capacity to create this different universe, which you can
call surreal, meta-real or metaphysical. For the sake of
convenience we will call it the order of truth. The word is
the creator, founder and producer of truth.
Note carefully that I am not establishing any hierarchy in
this connection, from a mediocre reality with no value,
ascending toward a transcendent truth. I merely establish
two different orders. Rather than speaking of Truth, at this
point I am still dealing just with the order of truth (which is
also, to be sure, the order of untruth, error and falsehood!).
Nor am I saying that language has nothing to do with reality.
We will examine this relationship later. I am, instead, looking
for specificity, and in this case it resides in the fact that
nothing besides language can reach or establish the order
of truth."
Isn't that similar to Rorty's "conversation"?
Matt:
Sure.
There's a nest of vipers in there, but no more so than most.
(For example, I don't go in for surs, metas, or
not-bound-to-realitys anymore, nor is it clear why one
would need to double "order," these two "universes," but hey,
I get the gist.)
Matt
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