[John] But let's also remember that from what we can all read and construe of his writing and arguments, that such efforts are not to make the Moq more academic, but to make the Academy of of higher Quality.
[Arlo] Well, the MOQ IS "academic", John. It IS an intellectual pattern. Yes, as DMB reminds us, it is about "expanding rationality", not condemning it. Ant's thesis, which Pirsig endorsed and supported, is an effort to "make the MOQ more academic". David Granger's book on Pirsig and Dewey IS a high quality academic endeavor that expands Pirsig's ideas. We need MORE of this. We have plenty of "the moon is pretty, and democrats are evil traitors" people out in the world. Here's my take. ZMM is about living; fixing motorcycles, building gumption, bringing "craft" back to "technology" and "industry", care, seeing the Buddha in rotisserie assembly. LILA (the MOQ theory) is about understanding the world via an expanded rationality; developing better intellectual patterns, reorganizing our existing practice via the MOQ's reinterpretation of experience. I'd say you are arguing (correctly) that the rotisserie/motorcycle/craft half that is the "path to enlightenment" is not lost in all this. Believe me, amigo, I am behind that 100%. All I am saying is that the MOQ, an intellectual pattern (despite Bo's mired denial) is about expanding rationality, and THAT is an intellectual endeavor; one which Ant, Granger, DMB, you, Matt, Steve and others here do far more service to than the "pefessers are bad, mmkay" crowd... Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
