Yep - that about sums it up for Platt (to misquote Douglas Adams)!
It struck me the other day when replying to one of Platt's posts that
the way to think about what he says is to ask yourself the question
"What would a typical Victorian think"!
If you're an intellectual then just go and sit over there and look
pretty my dear and let the real men get on with the business of the
world. Wonderful!
Now we can sit back and wait for Platt to accuse us of of ad hominem
attacks and/or being lefty commie pinko interleckchuals.
Oh Joy!
Horse
On 17/04/2010 19:18, david buchanan wrote:
Horse said to Platt:
Your Pirsig quote comes from that part of Lila's Child where you are supporting
Bo's (now) SOL idea and Pirsig disagrees with you about the MoQ being a SOM
document based on SOM reasoning: ... Pirsig's notes 129, 131 and 133 also
specifically disagree with Bo's idea about SOM as the Intellectual level - for
which you show agreement. Why is it that when Pirsig states quite
categorically that both you and Bo are wrong about SOL - even going so far as
to say that your conclusions undermine the MoQ - you ignore everything he says.
dmb says:
Those undermining conclusions are the same now as they were then, which means
they haven't changed since the late 1990's at least. Man, that's a long time to
be wrong about something, especially since they've both been actively engaged
in discussing it the whole time. Man, talk about swishing around old tea. I
mean, there's static quality and then there is stuck and stale.
I strongly suspect that Platt wants to equate intellect with SOM so that he can
then take all of Pirsig's reasons for wanting to expand rationality and use
them to destroy rationality instead. His political attitudes demonstrate his
exclusive love of social level values, especially where they conflict with
intellectual values. He'll pick religion and money over science and rights
every time. Platt is essentially anti-intellectual and he reads Pirsig to serve
that purpose. For Platt, what Pirsig thinks is beside the point. He doesn't
care about that. He just thinks he found a little ammo depot in his war against
liberals, intellectuals, atheists or basically anybody that doesn't fit his
idea of a decent American. There are literally millions of guys just like him,
all parroting the same exact lines. You've heard of the myth of Echo, who was
condemned to foolishly repeat the words of others? Here in the USA we have a
high-powered, high-tech, well financed version called the R
ep
ublican echo chamber. Everything he says can be found in The Washington
Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh or some other talk
radio show, The Weekly Standard or the National Review. On top of these
newspapers, TV news, radio shows, and magazines there are the bolgs, web sites
and public relations agencies and word doctors. Lot of people are unaware of
these last two category and that's the way they like it. It's a machine. And
the stuff that comes out of Platt's pen was produced by that machine. It has
nothing to do with the MOQ and everything to do with right-wing propaganda.
God bless Norman Rockwell and Ronald Reagan.
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