DMB still can't get over that Pirsig endorsed capitalism over socialism or that liberal intellectuals like himself when put in charge of society screwed everything up, as anyone with half a brain can plainly see. Why else such bitter invective? Fear perhaps.
Oh well,. as Shakespeare said, " The empty vessel makes the loudest sound." On 17 Apr 2010 at 12:18, david buchanan wrote: > > > Horse said to Platt: > > > Your Pirsig quote comes from that part of Lila's Child where you are > supporting Bo's (now) SOL idea and Pirsig disagrees with you about the MoQ > being a SOM document based on SOM reasoning: ... Pirsig's notes 129, 131 and > 133 also specifically disagree with Bo's idea about SOM as the Intellectual > level - for which you show agreement. Why is it that when Pirsig states > quite categorically that both you and Bo are wrong about SOL - even going so > far as to say that your conclusions undermine the MoQ - you ignore everything > he says. > > > > > dmb says: > > > Those undermining conclusions are the same now as they were then, which means > they haven't changed since the late 1990's at least. Man, that's a long time > to be wrong about something, especially since they've both been actively > engaged in discussing it the whole time. Man, talk about swishing around old > tea. I mean, there's static quality and then there is stuck and stale. > > I strongly suspect that Platt wants to equate intellect with SOM so that he > can then take all of Pirsig's reasons for wanting to expand rationality and > use them to destroy rationality instead. His political attitudes demonstrate > his exclusive love of social level values, especially where they conflict > with intellectual values. He'll pick religion and money over science and > rights every time. Platt is essentially anti-intellectual and he reads Pirsig > to serve that purpose. For Platt, what Pirsig thinks is beside the point. He > doesn't care about that. He just thinks he found a little ammo depot in his > war against liberals, intellectuals, atheists or basically anybody that > doesn't fit his idea of a decent American. There are literally millions of > guys just like him, all parroting the same exact lines. You've heard of the > myth of Echo, who was condemned to foolishly repeat the words of others? Here > in the USA we have a high-powered, high-tech, well financed version called > the R ep > ublican echo chamber. Everything he says can be found in The Washington > Times, The Wall Street Journal, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh or some other talk > radio show, The Weekly Standard or the National Review. On top of these > newspapers, TV news, radio shows, and magazines there are the bolgs, web > sites and public relations agencies and word doctors. Lot of people are > unaware of these last two category and that's the way they like it. It's a > machine. And the stuff that comes out of Platt's pen was produced by that > machine. It has nothing to do with the MOQ and everything to do with > right-wing propaganda. > > God bless Norman Rockwell and Ronald Reagan. > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
