On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 5:41 PM, ARLO J BENSINGER JR <[email protected]> wrote:
> [Platt]
> Quality, direct experience, reality -- all synonyms. "Quality is a direct
> experience independent of and prior to intellectual abstractions." (Lila,5)
>
> [Arlo]
> No to the first claim.
[Platt]
Yes to the first claim. "If quality or excellence is seen as the ultimate
reality . . ." (Lila, 8)
[Arlo]
> But agree with Pirsig. Quality is a "direct experience".
> "Reality" is what we call the stable patterns of value emanating from this
> event.
>
[{Platt]
In the MOQ what we call reality is Quality which includes Dynamic Quality as
well as stable Quality patterns. .
> [Arlo]
> Quality is prior to "reality".
>
[Platt] Quality is reality. See above quote. .
[Arlo]
Quality is the "primary empirical reality" of the world.
>
> Empirical denotes experience.
>
> Quality is the experiential foundation of the world.
>
> I assume "the world" is "reality".
>
> Hence, Quality is the experiential foundation of reality.
>
> [Platt]
Quality isn't the "foundation" of a consequent or emergent reality. It is
reality.
> [Arlo]
And "reality" is the stable patterns of value preferences forming the MOQs
> levels...
>
> Quality is the experiential foundation of these stable patterns of value.
>
> [Platt]
No. Direct experience of DQ and SQ is reality. .. .
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