Arlo: Ah, Ian, some day I'll learn to walk to high road with you in the face of rhetoric. I think the issue for me is I just wish Bo had to honesty to not try to conflate "understanding the MOQ" and "understanding the SOL", painting everyone who disagrees with his revision (which is nearly everyone) as somehow "not understanding the MOQ" (which includes Pirsig himself, apparently).
Andre: Hi Arlo, Ian, I decided to scan Lila again and guess what I found. I think it touches on just the point you make. Chapter 24 (i think)'If Rigel identified Phaedrus with this intellect vs society code (ie SOM)...he certainly picked on the wrong person'. Imho the crucial notion here is that Phaedrus has reformulated the S/O divisions in favour of morality. ie. patterns of value/morals. To wit: The MOQ simply says that intellectual patterns are moral patterns. The MOQ is a replacement, an expansion of the paralyzing intellectual system which declared morals intellectually illegal (i.e. SOM). Now, why this needs another level, with all the added complications inherent is beyond me. Us weaklings know this already though but the 'hard' ones remain hard headed...or so it seems. I stick to Pirsig's admonition of these interpreters. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
