Okay, one more post.

Mary said:
We have always had intellectual freedom.  It was intellectual freedom that came 
up with gods, and kings, and then different gods, and then one god, reading and 
writing, poetry, art, music, legal systems, politics, money, trade, etc.  All 
these changing ideas happened and continue to change to this day in the Social 
Level.  The Social level is not deadly static and fixed in stone. 


dmb says:

Whoa! I think you've glossed over the difference between social and 
intellectual values that makes things hopelessly muddy. And who said the social 
level was deadly static and fixed in stone? 

We've always had intellectual freedom? Are you kidding? Until very recent 
times, saying the wrong thing would get you killed. The Inquisition springs to 
mind. The Scopes Monkey trial, McCarthyism are also very famous examples of 
social level restrictions on intellectual freedom. Sorry, but I think that's 
just about the wrongest thing I've heard all day.



                                          
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