DMB you wrote: > Bodvar responded by defending this same idea three more times: > ...About Aretê being the social level in a MOQ retrospect is so obvious > that you have to be hell-bent on NOT admitting it. It was the Homer's > time in Greece "...when the social level weren't yet transcended" as it > says in LILA. .., but it's plain silly to believe that DQ was more > prominent at some particular time in history. And its just as plain that > the Aretê represents social values, the duty, honour, valor, contempt for > death that Hector displays is the same as the islamists suicide "pilots" > showed. ... Now, in the MOQ context "intellect" is the last or highest > level, thus what precedes intellect must necessarily have been the > social, but mark you, all level have once been the "cutting edge" and the > formation of a new level was in all cases as dynamic as dynamic comes. dmb says: > So here you have four different versions of this so-called straw man. May > I now assume that this point is no longer in dispute?
With this debate technique you may escape arguments, but it's a bit cheap. BTW it was the passage in LILA about intellect not being reached in Homer's time (which underpins the SOL) that made Paul Turner write the famous letter where Pirsig rejected the mind - or thinking - intellect and affirmed the S/O intellect, but true to tradition added the non-S/O oriental intellect to keep us going. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
