[Craig]
I would say the one example is the MoQ. 1) The MoQ is/is- part- of the Intellectual Level 2) The MoQ isn't/isn't-part-of the SOM 3) :. SOM isn't the Intellectual Level.

[Arlo]
Yeah. I think a source of confusion here is to think that because intellectual patterns are built with symbols, and symbols are predominantly linguistic, and language makes us of "subject" and "object" grammatically, then one misconstrues all that as SOM.

But language also makes use of verbs and time. It would be as easy to characterize intellect as Motion-Time Metaphysics, that being the case.

In any case, the distinction is that SOM is a unique subset of intellectual patterns that begins with the premise that a "subject-object" divide is the PRIMARY metaphysical split, and then any subsequent "reasoning" from that premise we'd label "SOM".

This is precisely what led Pirsig to ask: Now that intellect was in command of society for the first time in history, was this the intellectual pattern it was going to run society with? (LILA)








At 12:08 PM 5/3/2010, you wrote:
[Mary] > If you are going to say that the Intellectual Level is more than "just SOM", > I need ONE example. . I would say the one example is the MoQ. 1) The MoQ is/is- part- of the Intellectual Level 2) The MoQ isn't/isn't-part-of the SOM 3) :. SOM isn't the Intellectual Level. QED Craig   Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html

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