Andre I combine two of your "quips" here
Bodvar: > ...Intellect as = SOM. Your resistance now is more of a childish > tantrum. Andre: > Are you finally ready to admit that the S/O way of analyzing > experience, and (by implication,that this is therefore 'reality') is a > Western intellectual pattern of value which is quite dominant...in the > West? No, I'm not ready for any of your nonsense. The intellectual S/O level cemented into SOM in the West, in the Far East it was transcended by the Q-like Buddhism before reaching SOM proportions. The Middle East however has resisted the intellectual movement till this day due to the cemented social pattern called Islam. They had a chance in the Islam heyday round year 1000 when liberal Sultans and Kalifs opened up for science and philosophy, but when this threatened Islam itself (what science & philosophy necessarily and inevitably do) fundamentalism hit back in the form of the order of the assassins and the rest is history. ----------------------------------- Bodvar: > > ...it was SOM's objective scientific approach... Andre: > In the MOQ the activity of science is 'subjective'. It is considered > part of social and intellectual patterns of value. In SOM science (physics at least) is the subject trying to find the laws of objective reality. In the MOQ the "subject/object" distinction is the intellectual LEVEL ... in case you didn't know. To deem something subjective (even in quotation marks) tells a lot about your twisted understanding of the MOQ. To make science partly social tells even more. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
