Bodvar: OK this is me not Platt, but subjects and objects - along with all S/O dualisms - came to pass with the Greeks. Isn't it possible to get this ESSENTIAL message into your head? (ZAMM 382)
What is essential to understand at this point is that until now there was no such thing as mind and matter, subject and object, form and substance. Those divisions are just dialectical inventions that came later. The modern mind sometimes tends to balk at the thought of these dichotomies being inventions and says, ``Well, the divisions were there for the Greeks to discover,'' and you have to say, ``Where were they? Point to them!'' And the modern mind gets a little confused and wonders what this is all about anyway, and still believes the divisions were there. But they weren't, as Phædrus said. They are just ghosts, immortal gods of the modern mythos which appear to us to be real because we are in that mythos. But in reality they are just as much an artistic creation as the anthropomorphic Gods they replaced. Ron: This passage illustrates the concept that the s/o distinction is an intellectual invention, just like Gods, ghosts and myths. S/O appears to be real but it is'nt it's just as made up as the Gods it replaces. You and Mary maintain that S/O was there for the greeks to discover just as MoQ was there for Pirsig to discover. This Quote contradicts that assertion. Just an fyi Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
