Mary, Marsha, All. 1 Jun:
Marsha had said > > > > > While I think the fourth level is SOM all the way. I hold the > > > > > level structure lightly. To me the nature of all patterns has had a > > > > > far greater impact. Bo: > > > Right you are Marsha the intellectual level is SOM all the way, at > > > least S/O, the "M" is handed over to the MOQ. However, an "observation" > > > on the "structure" part. You hold it lightly Marsha, and that's > > > good, but it ought to be erased totally. Marsha anew: > > I do not understand your point. In spite of my choice of words and > > phrases, it's Reality is Quality(unpatterned/patterned). Mary: > I think Bo seeks what we seek. What would it be like to lift the > veil? Erase our regular view of things as subjects and objects and > instead see only patterns of value. What if we could do that all day? > Go to work, go shopping and see only patterns of value. What would > we see? I don't know. The MOQ has long since lifted the SOM veil for me, I'm no mystic and usually look at existence through the highest level's S/O glasses and treat it by its mind/matter tool, but no longer with any metaphysical qualms those are resolved long ago. It's just when we discuss the MOQ - supposed to be at the high metaphysical ground - and Marsha speaking about intellect's "structure" that I interpreted as her seeing it as some kind of mental vessel containing ideas. This triggered my un- called for comment. Regarding Mary's > Go to work, go shopping and see only patterns of value. What would > we see? I don't know. I think Beauty a variant of Quality and see it everywhere and try to catch it even if it usually ends in kitsch. Bodvar Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
