Hi John, I wasn't being entirely serious, just highlighting the balance. But I didn't contrast chaos with stability, or dynamism with instability or compare chaos with dynamism - you translated all my words.
A little chaos is a part of dynamism ... and therefore essential. Threes may be unpredictable, but that doesn't make them unstable. And pairs being more predictable / intelligible does prevent then from being unstable. But 100% chaotic dynamism s with zero predictable stability would be ... err ... chaos. Dynamic quality needs static patterns too. Ian On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:15 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah but Ian, > > Pairs set up that ol' pendulum swinging, back and forth, back and forth, > higher and higher, harder and harder. Dyadic relations inherently tend > toward destruction. > > Whereas the triadic is inherently stable - a tripod vs the motorcycle, for > instance. And don't even get me started on unicycles! > > With three or more, you have an interpreter. Even Bo pleads to Krimel to be > an umpire! Imagine that. > > So what you call chaos, I call the dynamic possibility of freedom. What you > call stable, I call static cling. > > Long reign the threesome! > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Ian Glendinning > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> To John the enthusiast of group things, from Ian the enthusiast of >> paired things. >> >> I call this the three-body-problem - after Newton. Pairs work because >> they are (sufficiently) predictable .... three or more, chaos. >> Workable groups are made of pairs of pairs of pairs of ... >> >> Jerry Garcia and Neal Cassady >> Jerry Garcia and The Grateful Dead >> Man and wife. >> Man and mistress >> Wife and lover >> Child and sibling >> Child and parent >> >> Subjects and objects do have value. >> >> Easier to chew on ? >> Ian >> >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:20 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Good Morning, Margaret, your quote coincides precisely with a little >> snippet >> > I just read, that seems right on the point: >> > >> >> >> >> Bruce Lee said in "The Tao of Jeet Kune Do": >> >> "To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person." >> >> >> >> And you sure can learn alot in a relationship whether or not it >> >> involves the contract of marriage! >> >> >> >> >> > The snippet I read was from the introduction to a book called "On the >> Bus", >> > a retrospective of the great bus Further and the Merry Pranksters and >> about >> > an episode where a relationship changed the perspective of one person >> > contemplating individuality vs. community who claimed, "Neal Cassady >> > changed my life" >> > >> > "He was the mellow Neal, just a guy, just like us. But there was a >> > mysterious thing there too. I had the feeling that I was involved in a >> > lesson... >> > >> > Neal represented a model to me of how far you could take it in an >> individual >> > way, in the sense that you weren't going to have a work, you were going >> to >> > be the work. Work in real time, which is a lot like musician's work. >> > >> > I was oscillating at the time. I had originally been an art student and >> was >> > wavering between one-man-one-work or being involved in something that was >> > dynamic and ongoing and didn't necessarily stay any one way-- and, also, >> > something in which you weren't the only contributing factor. >> > >> > I decided to go with what was dynamic and with what more than one mind >> was >> > involved with. >> > >> > The decision I came to was to be involved in a group thing, namely the >> > Grateful Dead, and I'm still involved with it." >> > >> > Jerry Garcia >> > >> > So back to the original question Marsha had, about MoQ reasons for >> marriage, >> > here's one to chew on. Living by our own thinking is too static. >> > >> > John the enthusiast of "group things" >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list >> > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> > Archives: >> > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> > http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
