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Not this, not that. Just story... Marsha On Jun 9, 2010, at 11:45 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > Hi John, > > Via the radio waves, the topic rages onward. This morning the > discussion had advanced to the 'science of marriage'. I did giggle. > It seems this expert was claiming that the statistics were changing > and marriages were strengthening and lengthening. It was those > 'damn' baby boomers that had caused the warping towards divorce. > It was also mentioned that marriage was being delayed until the > late '20s. Certainly marrying when one is mature helps. I was > first married at nineteen. I was so immature with such happily- > ever-after expectations that the marriage was doomed. And, of > course, there was that 'I am woman hear me roar' attitude that > made me consider things other than dusting. Bless Betty Friedan!!! > > John, you make a good point about education. My second marriage > was on a slight slippery slope when two pieces of valuable information > came my way, one was definitely ZMM which shifted my point-of-view. > The other was discovering I was a type (INTP) which meant my > husband was a different type. A simple thing like that made me realize > that people had different points-of-view. Then I became very > interested in learning how he must experience the world. The marriage > became new again. The meaning of everything shifted to a better, more > interesting point-of-view. It didn't help my kids, though, I was too soon > stupid and too late smart. > > > > Bye John, > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 9, 2010, at 10:36 AM, John Carl wrote: > >> I have a simple answer for what the intellectual level can do - Teach! >> >> We spend a lot of time in high school on many different subjects - almost >> none on two of the most important and intertwined life skills - >> child-rearing and marriage - that are the most central to human existence. >> >> Intelligence and luck both have a lot to do with success in these >> all-important endeavors, but I'm betting that education would help a lot. >> >> Likewise, understanding the levels structure helps us make more rational >> weighings of the wisdom of hooking up with a particular partner. >> >> When I got married the first time, I hadn't read ZAMM or Lila yet and that >> marriage was a disaster. When I met Lu, I had a firm grasp of the MoQ and >> that marriage has been a success. Correlation or causation? >> >> That's the tricky thing about empiricism, it gives us facts, but WE must >> give the meaning. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 3:16 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Greetings All, >>> >>> Thank you for responding. It is good to hear of long-lived marriages that >>> still have value. >>> Maybe my question is in what can the intellectual level do to help the >>> social level with a >>> pattern such as marriage. Possibly by intelligent individuals setting a >>> good example? >>> But that doesn't seem right. Luck seems a better answer. But, but but... >>> >>> When I consider the levels, I see their association with evolution as a >>> practical enticement >>> to the West to introduce/consider a monism based on Value to replace a >>> dualism based >>> on subjects and objects. I cannot understand how the level structure >>> actually helps make >>> improvement other than hypothetically. How can the level structure be >>> anything but stepping >>> stones to a Quality? >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
