Andre 14 June
Bodvar: > I understand, but for Heaven sake WHY? (introduce the QUALITY/MOQ > meta-metaphysics > Andre: > Because one is from a static perspective and the other from a dynamic > perspective. Please Bodvar, you do realize the (experiential) > difference between the two?! You dear fool, if it is "static" to declare the DQ/SQ ordering of reality, then declaring a QUALITY/MOQ ordering is just as "static". Please yourself come to your senses. Bodvar: > The SOL interpretation has much less "bits and pieces" that the > Quality/MOQ one. > Andre: > Clearly not because to accommodate your SOL interpretation you have to > invent a new level from somewhere which messes up a wonderful MOQ. No new levels whatsoever. In the much harped-on "in-out-turn" SOM became the intellectual level, no longer is it a somish "mind" which is needed for ideas to "reside" inside. The MOQ reality is the DQ/SQ configuration. Period! Bodvar: > As shown in "The Summary" the Quality/MOQ is created by Pirsig. Andre: > Yes, and he is very consistent. YOU are the one that makes it into a > meta-metaphysics. Yes, I call it meta-meta because it makes the MOQ part of a greater system. It has bothered me since Pirsig - in a effort to be more Buddhist than Buddha himself - began his undermining of the MOQ. Bodvar: > Problem with you is not having understanding the initial metaphysical > inside-out turn that makes value the base of everything, thus static > value is value too while you treat SQ as some latter-day equivalent of > SOM's "objective". Andre: > And this is entirely your interpretation of the 'inside-out turn' and > SQ as having a so called 'objective' status. The IDEA that there were > inorganic- and organic patterns of value before sentience is a high > quality intellectual pattern of value because of empirical/scientific > evidence. This is the unbearable nonsense of many "Lila's Child" annotations. "Ideas" ...phew, the pet of the SOM instigator Plato. Bodvar: Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
