On 17 Jul 2010 at 14:20, Krimel wrote: [Platt] Reason (SOM) expanded human understanding of levels 1 and 2, but in so doing
left values in the dust and lost them there, going so far as to deny their existence. The MOQ takes humanity to a new promontory of understanding where one can see, if he will only open his eyes, a new reality of Quality (values) whose structure makes reason (SOM) subordinate. [Krimel] Reason expands human understanding at all levels, 1, 2, 3, and 4. For example when we think about thinking it is called metacognition. Jonah Leher makes a big thing of this. He claims for example that meditation is a form of metacognition. In metacognative terms reason and emotion are often thought of as separate modes of thinking. Jung talked about intellect and intuition, for example. If we have been overzealous in sublimating emotion and values since the enlightenment, it is a sublimation that emotion and value richly deserved. Humanity was governed by its emotional values for millennia. If reason finally got a chance to take charge for a change I say, bully for it. And it has done a fairly nice job under the circumstances. Reason is the late arrival even in evolutionary terms. Man seems to be the only living thing we know to possess it. It also seems that the function of reason is inhibitory. It serves to override the emotions and stop us from acting on the immediate emotional "value" of the present. It helps us subordinate what feels good to what makes sense. [Platt] Obviously you feel good about what makes sense. So do I, especially when I became convinced that Pirsig made a great deal of sense when he wrote: The Metaphysics of Quality would show how things become enormously more coherent-fabulously more coherent-when you start with an assumption that Quality is the primary empirical reality of the world." (Lila, 5) Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
