[Craig, previously]
> Take Pluto.  It was "down-graded" from a planet. If you think that thereby 
> reality changed,
> you see a relationship [between patterns & thinking], if you think it didn't, 
> you don't.

.
[Marsha]
> The Pluto pattern doesn't exist without some relationship to 
> thinking.  Does it?  

.
IMHO Pluto's patterns are constituted by its interactions with other patterns. 
When the platypus
was discovered people argued over whether it was a furry reptile, an egg-laying 
mammal or even
possible. But the platypus went on its merry way. So too Pluto's interaction 
with the sun &
other planets is more significant than its interaction with our thinking. 
Though there must be some|
possible interaction, however indirect, between Pluto & us, for Pluto to be 
real.



Craig    


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