DMB said (amongst other things). "It seems to me that the level of abstraction is key to the difference between social and intellectual levels. That is in terms of the quality of intelligence or thinking itself. But historically speaking, it's also a matter of which values are in charge ..."
I think that is the key too, in distinguishing the social & intellectual levels. Intellectual ... the conceptual abstraction is deliberately detached from (prevailing) social values... in that sense it is "individual" relative to that collective society and "free" relative to the power of that society. (Clearly, symbolic manipulation is part of both levels.) I think the confusion arises when intellectual ideas are introduced to the actual operation of a society ... as they must ... and become adopted by the power (governance and political arrangements, formal and informal) ... when the intellectual concepts can in fact become social patterns - often particularly powerful social patterns - but social patterns none-the-less. It's the process of history that matters. Ian On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:56 AM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
