On Sep 5, 2010, at 10:14 AM, X Acto wrote:
> It has been understood for quite some time that experience
> or "be-ing" is varied,many, dynamic and in flux.
>
> And in hindsight we must ask ourselves if the idea
> of "being" as equivalent to "one" has bore fruitful
> consequences.
>
> The school of thought in the west from the Pythagoreans
> to the Platonist to the Aristotelian empiricists take
> "be-ing" as "one" whole unit.
> The Platonists and Pythagoreans conceived of it as
> a primary being of the universe, while the Aristotelian
> understood it as predication of meaning. What it meant
> when we say that something "is" in terms of definition.
>
> The discussions revolving around this issue are many
> and varied.
>
> But the question that is avoided is not whether or not
> the idea of "being as one" is technologically superior
> but rather is "being as one" better evolutionarily
> than "being as in flux" and dynamic.
>
> Is this technological superiority better evolutionarily?
Have the purposes chosen by Western intellect provided goodness?
I'd say yes, but mostly no. I think RMP has asked the question,
Krishnamurti and the Dalai Lama certainly have, with all our
technological advancement are humans suffering less. Tough
to know, but again my guess would be mostly no they are not
suffering less.
This seems complicated because there are two levels: the
conventional point-of-view and the enlightened point-of-
view. Of the first I'd say I cannot bear to see any sentient
being suffer. I had shudders of horror the other day
having discovered what a spider was doing to a little
inch-worm. In the second case, everything is as it is
suppose to be: glorious.
We are of different types. While understanding that all is
Value, I, personally, do not like to make value judgements.
If I do, moments later I can think of twelve other reasons
why I might be wrong. But it is some peoples preference
to proclaim judgements. Maybe I'm suggesting I do not
think you question can be answered.
What do you think? Have I gone off in a different direction?
Ron:
I'd say that was an excellent post and a great direction.
a good topic to discuss.
thank you Marsha, that was cool.
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