Which Eastern culture moved beyond it?
On Sep 3, 2010, at 8:58 AM, X Acto wrote: > Trouble is Bodvars SOL did'nt recognize it as a western cultural development > it was asserted as the evolutional development of the human race. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Fri, September 3, 2010 8:02:55 AM > Subject: Re: [MD] Able to change well. > > While thinking about Ability to change well, and the static and dynamic > functions, i suddenly asked, Is the moq Archetypal? > > > This immediately highlighted the antimonies of classic, romantic, static, > dynamic. > > > Jung thinks a division between the psychic realm and that of pure emotion > lead > to intellectual development. > And this reminded me of Bodvar Skutvik's SOL. > > > Once humans began to regard people as either material, psychic or spiritual, > the > psychic and spiritual viewed matter as an opposite. > This division is the basis of our cultural development it would seem. > > > If you truly believe that Quality invented this division, then it is > understandable why Bodvar regards it as Quality's intellect. > This is reinforced by a diagram in Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance > which does not further subdivide the romantic, for that experience is a unity > of > emotions. > > > Yes, emotions change, but that observation is reflective. > > > ------------------- > > > The moq employs different antimonies. These are closer to the material, > psychic > and spiritual. > (Jung thinks that psychic is an indeterminate centre between material and > spiritual, at least at this very early stage). > This reminds me of Maxwell's sweet spot or Dynamic coherence idea. > And so this is Archetypal too. > > > ------------------- > > > Quality and Dynamic Quality are antimonies in this sense: Quality is a source > and Dynamic Quality is a teleology. > They are intellectual discriminations derived from past, future, while > reserving > an insistence that Quality is a unity of immediate experience. > > > ------------------- > > > It seems to me that Jung ties all this together quite well. > But i am not expecting universal agreement. > > > One more note, in Subjects, Objects, Data and Values, the four static levels > are > divided in the object and the subject. > This works well for extroverts, but introverts may be more inclined to view > social patterns as alien. > And so for introverts, symbolic manipulation of the moq intellect is the only > subject. > This view again supports Bodvar's assertions it seems to me. > > > Thank you > Ade > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
