Nice. Well done. That's exactly the kind of careful, responsible, non-evasive reply I was asking for. You've defended your statements with wit and skill, as always. "Fuck off!" That's pure genius. Very respectable. Wish I'd thought of that.
Marsha said to dmb, > > It's been my experience that you best shot is always naming calling. Fuck > off! > > > Marsha > > > > > On Sep 12, 2010, at 1:24 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > > > > dmb said to Marsha: > > .., you are seemingly oblivious to the central objection. Your response > > does not even mention it, ..We have Pirsig on record about this, you know? > > He thinks that equating the intellectual level with SOM undermines the MOQ. > > That's the objection you're not hearing, Marsha. > > > > > > > > Marsha says: > > I am hearing the objection. I understand the MoQ differently than you. > > Yea me!!! > > > > > > dmb says: > > > > No, boo you. If you really heard the objection, you wouldn't be calling > > your view "different". You'd be addressing the objection. And your view is > > not just different from mine, it's different than the author's. The > > inventor of the MOQ has explicitly condemned the equation you're using, but > > you're sticking to it anyway. What's worse, this hopelessly immovable > > position has been constructed out of a whole series of bad definitions > > misconceptions. "If my explanation is inadequate", you said, "I will try to > > find better words". Again, this response dismisses the main objection. > > > > Instead of trying to find better words, why not deal with the objections? > > Obviously, those objections will tell you specifically how and why people > > are finding your explanations inadequate. Instead of defending your right > > to think freely, which nobody is attacking, why don't you defend your > > ability to think carefully and responsibly? If you address the objections > > that've already been posted, you'd be directly confronting the inadequacies > > already spotted. Responding with "not this, not that. Yea, me" just doesn't > > count as a response at all. It's like you're at band practice every member > > of the band is telling you, one by one, that you're out of tune. And your > > response is to defend your right to sing "differently"? that response only > > shows that you're still not hearing the objection. > > > > Again from the top... > > > > > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
