Marsha to anybody and nobody:

Intellect reifies, yet ultimately I understand the MoQ to be Quality = 
unpatterned
experience / patterned experience.  It is experienced as ever-changing,
interdependent, relative, impermanent value.

Andre:
Well Marsha, here you go again without really understanding what you are saying 
to your-
self. I think you have reified 'intellect' and you go on saying that 
'ultimately' the MOQ
points to DQ/sq... AS YOU UNDERSTAND IT. Think about this, meditate on it. How 
do you understand
this, I wonder?

I understand you are contradicting yourself on the basis of that which you are
finding out through your meditative experiences. You translate this into a form 
which you
vehemently defend. You desperately want to channel it through a S/O cage. This 
is, in objective
terms, not being true to yourself...and the very fundamentals of the MOQ


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