Fictional reality? 2010/9/21 david buchanan <[email protected]>
> > No, that's exactly what I mean. You are confusing relativism with the > provisional nature of truth. The pragmatic theory of truth rejects the > notion of an absolute truth or an objective truth but ideas are true or not > depending on whether or not they function in experience. There is a > practical and empirical test of truth in the MOQ. Anthony probably should > have used the word "provisional" in that sentence. That word really is a > better fit with the description of truth in his next sentence, as the best > explanation "at a given time". > > Charges of relativism got James into hot water but Pirsig says his MOQ can > adopt pragmatism and radical empiricism without falling into that trap. It's > a bad place to be, according to almost any philosopher. In ZAMM we see how > he takes sides with the Sophists, who he says were slandered as relativists. > Pirsig is consistent about this concern with false charges of relativism > against his main heroes and allies. > And yet here you are saying the MOQ is just that. > > Sorry, but the evidence is plainly against you. If you want to be a > relativist, that's one thing. But don't trash Pirsig's work. > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 14:22:30 -0400 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MD] Quantum Enigma > > > > > > On Sep 21, 2010, at 1:33 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > dmb says: > > > That view is beyond relativism. It is solipsism. The MOQ is neither of > those things. > > > > > > Marsha: > > Sorry, I missed this comment. Truth within the MoQ is relative. > > > > > > Anthony writes: > > “Intellectual values include truth, justice, freedom, democracy and, > > trial by jury. It’s worth noting that the MOQ follows a pragmatic > > notion of truth so truth is seen as relative in his system while > > Quality is seen as absolute. In consequence, the truth is defined > > as the highest quality intellectual explanation at a given time. > > > > RMP: > > If the past is any guide to the future this explanation must be taken > > provisionally; as useful until something better comes along. One can > > then examine intellectual realities the same way he examines paintings > > in an art gallery, not with an effort to find out which one is the ‘real’ > > painting, but simply to enjoy and keep those that are of value. There are > > many sets of intellectual reality in existence and we can perceive some > > to have more quality than others, but that we do so is, in part, the > result > > of our history and current patterns of values. (Pirsig, 1991, p.103)” > > > > (McWatt,Anthony,MOQ Textbook) > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
